Guest2625 ( talk) 04:50, 26 July 2019 (UTC) As I've said many times, plenty of US citizens have convictions for sexual offenses, but it wouldn't lead to them having a Wikpedia article. I recommend no change to the lead in terms of this descriptor. Also a google news search shows 2,200,000 search results for "financier Jeffrey Epstein". It is clear that for 20 years he was Leslie Wexner's – the man of great fortune, in the billions – main financial adviser. Cedar777 ( talk) 00:32, 26 July 2019 (UTC) Throughout the article in multiple locations it is made clear that he is a financier.
It may eventually be proven that he moved no money for any clients in a legally responsible or professional capacity, only a fraudulent one, but that is unlikely to be the case. DIYeditor ( talk) 15:29, 25 July 2019 (UTC) Financier is a key part of the subject's identity, public perception, and story it belongs in the lede. BalancedIssues ( talk) 09:43, 25 July 2019 (UTC) WP:CLAIM. Epstein began his career in finance at the investment bank Bear Stearns, before claiming to have various activities in the finance industry. The sources document that his (primary) target seemed to be to finance 'himself' and his life-style and that he invested money (of unknown source) mainly in the general market - like everybody would do to "store" your money if you don't want to pile cash in your drawer ('Financier' would be a person whose (primary) occupation is either facilitating or directly providing investments to companies and businesses.).- BalancedIssues ( talk) 08:53, 25 July 2019 (UTC) How about the following start of the lede: Jeffrey Edward Epstein (born January 20, 1953) is an American registered sex offender. Latest sources also make it very questionable whether Epstein's was a 'financier'.
Latest filings of his lawyers already showed that he is definitively not a 'billionaire'. Is there any opposition to omitting "financier" is the lede? At least a hint in the lede that according to sources this is an image that Epstein paid to be promoted about himself?Īccording to latest sources it was mainly Epstein himself who promoted his image as 'billionaire financier' and he paid several journalists to paint this image what wouldn't be necessary if he was a real billionaire financier.
Some editors argued for omitting "unnecessary" facts in the lede (and to have those in the article text).
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